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Lolo
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posted 11-09-2000 05:53 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is there a god or is the entire idea of a god a way for man to feel comfortable with death. Or.. or.. or.. what scientific evidence do you have to back up your statements with?

PS. NO ONE HERE CARES WHAT YOU BELIEVE. IF YOU ONLY HAVE BELIEFS, TAKE A FUCKING WALK AND GO SOMEWHERE ELSE, BECAUSE WE COULDN'T GIVE A SHIT!

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jajdavid
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posted 11-09-2000 05:54 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is one.

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RickLazio
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posted 11-09-2000 05:55 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's a God and I can take you to him, sweetie.

Rick

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Lolo
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posted 11-09-2000 05:55 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
is there?

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Lolo
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posted 11-09-2000 05:55 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
where does god live... Sweetie pooh?

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WhiteCloud1969
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posted 11-09-2000 05:56 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
During the regular season, it's Greg Maddux. He changes into Luis Soho during the play offs.

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Lolo
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posted 11-09-2000 05:57 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let's go Yankees. Ohhhh yankees win ... ooohh yankees win!

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amymallett
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posted 11-09-2000 05:57 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
in our case, there are three Gods - their names are Matt Damon, Ben Affleck and Chris Moore.

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Lolo
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posted 11-09-2000 06:00 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Speaking of Gods... who likes the new Jurassic 5 cd. Kick ASSSSSSSSS!

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BillJayPeony
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posted 11-09-2000 07:11 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lolo:
Is there a god or is the entire idea of a god a way for man to feel comfortable with death. Or.. or.. or.. what do you think?

Read GOD backwards..........

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gilliat
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posted 11-09-2000 07:15 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ofcourse there's a god. Don't be silly.

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trawma
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posted 11-09-2000 08:04 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lolo:
Is there a god or is the entire idea of a god a way for man to feel comfortable with death. Or.. or.. or.. what do you think?

In the beginning, man created gods.

Kris

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gman8343
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posted 11-09-2000 08:10 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
God is a harried beaurocrat who is looking forward to handing over the job to his only son and dreaming of pension plans, high yielding stocks, and doing crossword puzzles in his pajamas.

gman

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JulieMallen
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posted 11-09-2000 08:24 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If there were no God...

You would not be asking the question...
Is there a God?

My friend :-)

We all were born with a God like whole inside of us.

We try to fill it with all the things this world has to offer.

From using our talent, to making it, to sex, to drugs, to shoppping,
to being liked, to hating etc...


But if you had all this world had to offer.

But still did not know that still small voice inside you calling out to you.
The voice of of your creator.

You would come up short, wanting, lacking.

Know God..
Know Peace...

No God...
NO Peace..

We have a wonderful loving God who longs to
speak to us and be part of us everyday.

He speak's in music, in children,
in films that we all love so much.

Yes, He even speaks through our sins and mistakes.

All we have to be is willing to hear,
Willing to see.
All we all need is willingness to beleive.

Faith is something you can not see,
Can not feel,
You just have to beleive that it is there.

We just get to busy with life sometimes to notice.

A- there is a God.
B- none of us are it!

Thank God we all dont get what we really deserve!
Instead of griping what we do not have.

If I lost everything but had my God..
I believe I would have enough to start again!

I hope this helped my friend.

Julie~

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JulieMallen
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posted 11-09-2000 08:35 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!!

For LOLO :-)

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ak-47
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posted 11-09-2000 08:39 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

For Satan!

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roman74
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posted 11-09-2000 09:13 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The word 'God' itself is made-up. The concept of a being that transcends time in space is also made-up.

There is, however, a justifiable reason to believe in a creative power that we can all 'tap' in to. In the creative world, it's called a "flow" - to let the ideas flow thru you. True artists live in their own world most of the time. Knowing you have completed a work of art is known to be cathartic - for you have resolved the creative energies that forced you to achieve those goals.

On a universal scale, the physical universe on its own has no reason to assemble together at all. Atoms could bump together all day and never form trees or rocks or people, so I believe the universe also works in a creative fashion. Some people call these physical laws - but you will never find these "laws" inherent in matter itself at all. Meaning, there is a transcending, unmalleable creatively maintaining order to the universe. And the physical world is its expression(s), not the meaning in itself.

To call this a "God", to try and put a label to something so amazing and magnificent would be to provincialize it. An artist knows this creative power exists. Art is the tool that points to it, but it needs no label to be recognized - which is also why we have so many different forms of art, religion, and languages to express it. In other words, it's more important to know it exists than to have to call it by some silly name.

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Lolo
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posted 11-10-2000 04:18 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well said roman74
very nice

Dearest JulieMallen(my sister's name is Julie) have you a review for me, for lolo?

On the point of whether a god exists or not, anybody else have something to say?

as ogre said in Revenge of the Nerds 2 "what if cat really spelled dog?"
think about that for a little while.

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kintar
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posted 11-10-2000 04:57 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As Jeff Fahey might say "I ... am ... God ... here."

What if there is a God, and He doesn't realize what he is?

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roman74
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posted 11-10-2000 05:09 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Keep it coming....

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HoaxedTotem
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posted 11-10-2000 05:12 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

If you give the idea a chance you'll feel
it in your heart , and then you'll know .

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donarson
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posted 11-10-2000 05:16 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No one makes me kneel
No one makes me pray
No one makes me hope for
More than i have today
No one to be truthful
Only with myself
If there is no damnnation
Than there is no hell
I am my own god.

©1994 DonArson

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HoaxedTotem
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posted 11-10-2000 05:37 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

WOW !
That's an awhful big IF ain't it ?

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Bad David
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posted 11-10-2000 06:35 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is a God. There is one God. There is THE God.
He is who He is.

I, however, cannot prove His existance to you. Nor is it my place to do so. I state my knowledge of His Being.

Look at the world with the wonder of a child. One cannot examine the world without seeing the Truth of the Maker, and knowing He is Good, and He is God.

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donarson
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posted 11-10-2000 07:12 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We are our own god.
"... i'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees"
I think people should believe in themselves first and formost.
Most of us don't/can't even do that...but you want to believe in something that may or may not even be real...

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HoaxedTotem
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posted 11-10-2000 08:00 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by donarson:
We are our own god.
"... i'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees"
I think people should believe in themselves first and formost.
Most of us don't/can't even do that...but you want to believe in something that may or may not even be real...

You are so lost , I'm not even gonna try !

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critical_critic
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posted 11-10-2000 08:18 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by HoaxedTotem:
You are so lost , I'm not even gonna try !


He's not lost..... YOU didn't get what he said.

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critical_critic
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posted 11-10-2000 08:23 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by roman74:
The word 'God' itself is made-up. The concept of a being that transcends time in space is also made-up.

There is, however, a justifiable reason to believe in a creative power that we can all 'tap' in to. In the creative world, it's called a "flow" - to let the ideas flow thru you. True artists live in their own world most of the time. Knowing you have completed a work of art is known to be cathartic - for you have resolved the creative energies that forced you to achieve those goals.

On a universal scale, the physical universe on its own has no reason to assemble together at all. Atoms could bump together all day and never form trees or rocks or people, so I believe the universe also works in a creative fashion. Some people call these physical laws - but you will never find these "laws" inherent in matter itself at all. Meaning, there is a transcending, unmalleable creatively maintaining order to the universe. And the physical world is its expression(s), not the meaning in itself.

To call this a "God", to try and put a label to something so amazing and magnificent would be to provincialize it. An artist knows this creative power exists. Art is the tool that points to it, but it needs no label to be recognized - which is also why we have so many different forms of art, religion, and languages to express it. In other words, it's more important to know it exists than to have to call it by some silly name.



THAT WAS GREAT......

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Owen
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posted 11-10-2000 08:26 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The universe apparently had the potential to evolve consciousness (us) from the beginning. With consiousness came free will, morality, intelligence, and creative ability.

Where did that potential come from?

We might also ask - Why isn't there nothing? (Or why is there something?)

To me, "God" is the only reasonable answer to those questions.

rgd

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donarson
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posted 11-10-2000 08:56 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Owen:
The universe apparently had the potential to evolve consciousness (us) from the beginning. With consiousness came free will, morality, intelligence, and creative ability.

Where did that potential come from?

We might also ask - Why isn't there nothing? (Or why is there something?)

To me, "God" is the only reasonable answer to those questions.

rgd


Thats because that is the easiest answer for most. Why look any further than that, why ruin the sence of security...right?

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Bad David
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posted 11-10-2000 08:59 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Imagining ourselves to be the ultimate conciousness in creation gives us security, and lets us arrogantly quit the question.

To know a Creator, and to know there are things beyond our understanding, to realize there is a purpose beyond our comprehension and beyond the scope of our puny little minds-

That isn't artificial security. But it is beautiful.

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Owen
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posted 11-10-2000 10:00 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So did you have answers to the questions, or...?

If you're honest, you'll find that your answers in essence are no different than mine. You would accuse me of maintaining some sense of security by my belief in God, and I would accuse you of deliberately avoiding a sense of security by your disbelief.

But that only deals with our ideologies. I offered an actual argument for the existence of God and you simply attacked my motive, not my logic. That is meaningless, since you have an equal yet opposite motive. We've gotten nowhere.

But I'd be interested to read if you (or anyone) can provide alternative answers - actual answers - not worldview attacks.

quote:
Originally posted by donarson:
Thats because that is the easiest answer for most. Why look any further than that, why ruin the sence of security...right?


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oneear
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posted 11-10-2000 10:12 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Existance itself, "sine qua non," leads us to God. We are are manifestations of God, as is all existence. That is to say, God's consciousness creates us and we in turn create God's consciousness. This is so for every speck of the cosmos. In ourselves he takes his existence to a new realm creating consciousness within consciousness. Consciousness even that is unaware (in some cases) of the existence of the higher consciousness. Trully then, the despair of the existentialist might be the most remarkable of God's work and perhaps reflect God's own profound loneliness. But all energies most merge back into their source, we all will knew God in due course. In the mean time we can revel in the remarkable, and yet inevitable, unique shades of creation each of us represent.

He breaths out and the cosmos is born, He breaths in and takes back in all that was, only to breath out once more.

1@

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map
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posted 11-11-2000 06:03 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you really believe that the intricacies of the universe, the planet, the human race, the structure of a simple flower all happened "by accident"? They all have order and a plan. They can be broken down into definite components, yet cannot be re-created without a portion of the original creation. But, who created the original creation? There must be a superior being!

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aceslyon
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posted 11-11-2000 08:30 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes

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Gilliat
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posted 11-11-2000 10:12 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
god pales in importance to faith.

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Lolo
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posted 11-12-2000 10:45 AM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
man is god, however, man does not like to take reponsibility for anything, so it's very simple when something, anything, any happening is yet without answer to ascribe reason for that happening to a god or the god. when man successfully creates artificial intelligence we will learn more about ourselves, is what I think. The roman74 quote was the best post so far... keep it coming, let's get really angry and see what happens... or not.

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kintar
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posted 11-12-2000 01:43 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by map:
Do you really believe that the intricacies of the universe, the planet, the human race, the structure of a simple flower all happened "by accident"? They all have order and a plan. They can be broken down into definite components, yet cannot be re-created without a portion of the original creation. But, who created the original creation? There must be a superior being!

If we must see God as the creator of all beautiful things (the planet, us, a flower, etc.), then it is imperative that we also credit Him for disease, poison, and destruction. He cannot be credited with the good without also being credited with the bad.

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Ajaxx
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posted 11-12-2000 01:59 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Julie, what's your script, hon? I need to read it. Please e-mail me at drygoods07031@yahoo.com Thank you for trying to help the misguided. My spirituality enhancing experiences are covered in Second Chances - by ajaxx(5 thers with the same title).
Years ago in LA a huge movie star at an LA AA meeting gave me this one. F-A-I-T-H. Stands for fantastic adventures in trusting him.
For the person who said Ben Afflick is God! Shame on you. We all know it's that idiot from WATERBOY.
quote:
Originally posted by JulieMallen:
If there were no God...

You would not be asking the question...
Is there a God?

My friend :-)

We all were born with a God like whole inside of us.

We try to fill it with all the things this world has to offer.

From using our talent, to making it, to sex, to drugs, to shoppping,
to being liked, to hating etc...


But if you had all this world had to offer.

But still did not know that still small voice inside you calling out to you.
The voice of of your creator.

You would come up short, wanting, lacking.

Know God..
Know Peace...

No God...
NO Peace..

We have a wonderful loving God who longs to
speak to us and be part of us everyday.

He speak's in music, in children,
in films that we all love so much.

Yes, He even speaks through our sins and mistakes.

All we have to be is willing to hear,
Willing to see.
All we all need is willingness to beleive.

Faith is something you can not see,
Can not feel,
You just have to beleive that it is there.

We just get to busy with life sometimes to notice.

A- there is a God.
B- none of us are it!

Thank God we all dont get what we really deserve!
Instead of griping what we do not have.

If I lost everything but had my God..
I believe I would have enough to start again!

I hope this helped my friend.

Julie~


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uhuru1701
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posted 11-12-2000 02:21 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

[This message has been edited by uhuru1701 (edited 02-24-2001).]

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