posted 11-26-2000 08:13 PM            

Ok, here goes.

I was visiting my Aunt for the summer and I was going to sleep in my cousin's empty bed. I couldn't seem to get comfortable enough to fall asleep. I turned to the right then the left, finally settling on my back. (which was weird for me because I have asthma and can't breath well on my back) I tried to move again, because I couldn't breath. I couldn't move, I felt paralyzed. I wasn't afraid, I was just like, aw c'mon, what's going on? Then all of a sudden, someone opened my eyes. They just shot open, and they were aimed at an area above the closet door. A little girl was sitting there with her knees drawn up to her chest. I kinda freaked, without words, but it was in my eyes, I could tell, because the little girl mirrored the look on my face. I couldn't move for a good while, and finally it felt like she released me. I got up and went to tell my Aunt. She is a very spiritual woman, and she immediately came into the room. I had no idea until then that my Aunt had the gift of being able to channel. The little girl spoke to me through my Aunt. She was a sweet little five year old who didn't know that she was dead. She had followed my cousin (who had been lonely) home from the park/cemetary where she used to go rollerskating. Anyway, it was a very long night, but we managed to help her find her way to her grandpa.

It was an amazing experience. Some may find it too fantastic to believe, but it is an honest to God true story.

[This message has been edited by isulte (edited 11-26-2000).]

posted 11-27-2000 05:48 PM            

Anyway, I just posted on the other thread. I've had a few "knowing" experiences. Two of my sisters have more of them and I think another sister blocks all possibilities of knowing more than physical reality. Anyway, I've been pondering life changes for several months and sometimes my son asks timely questions about things I've been thinking about. It kind of startles me. Not long ago, my husband had been working long, long hours and it was really getting to the kids. One night, my husband managed to get home in time for me to lie down with my son at bedtime. My son said, "It's a good thing dad got home early so you could lie down with me." And I thought, "well, not early, on time." And my son said, "well, not early, on time." THAT made me very aware that even our thoughts can be projected.

Now, about ghosts and such. When we first moved into this house, my son who was then four, started having to sleep in our room. Even as an infant he didn't want to sleep with us but all of a sudden and for about a year and a half, he slept on the floor in our room. A couple of years go by and now our daughter, who's four, won't sleep in her room. (Different room, same side of house) She wouldn't even go in her room for a long time and sometimes still won't. Even in the daytime, she's acted afraid of something in the hallway and in her brother's room. When I asked her about it she said she sees ghosts. We close the door to his room and hers. It was a little better for a few months but lately she's been afraid again. I try to tell her that the ghosts won't hurt her and I'm here to protect her. She tries to tell herself that it's her imagination scaring her. What should I do? I've thought I should teach her to call upon her deceased loved ones, like her recently dead great-grandmother and my long dead mother, asking them to protect her. Anyone?

posted 11-27-2000 10:09 PM            

I think it's good to have a fear for evil. For instance. I was having a convo. with my mother tonight about the paranoia I sometimes feel. For Thanksgiving at my parents house one night, I got a really weird feeling that I shouldn't go outside and smoke a cigarette (it was like 2 in the morning). Semi-scared by a movie I was watching, I decided to sit in the garage and take a couple of puffs. The funny thing is my parents live in a beautiful neighborhood in Biloxi, and I felt like such a wuss for not stepping out on the back porch. Come to find out, my mom calls tonight and tells me that some strange MEN have been roaming the area trying to break into cars, or what not.

posted 11-27-2000 10:12 PM            

Would you say that "Sixth Sense" is a pretty good idea of what parts of an afterlife might be like? meaning ... people in "transition."

I happen to think so, which is why the film resonated with me.

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Originally posted by Sachet:
Ah, but God did take care of the little girl. He enabled Isulte and her aunt to help her find her grampa!

The afterlife, as I've experienced it through people I've communicated with who've passed on, isn't something organized and concrete the way our life on earth is. It's very fluid and beyond what we are able to comprehend. Souls seem still to have free will--just in a different dimension. This little girl just wanted a kind grown-up to show her the way home. That's all.

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posted 11-30-2000 03:04 PM            

Lucid dreams are awesome. It occurs when you realize you are dreaming while in a dream. From that point you have a more conscious control of your actions in the dream. There is no fear in certain dream situations. In one lucid dream I was fighting a crocodile the size of an elephant. I jumped on its back and split it in half!

In a normal dream I would have woken up in a cold sweat, but since I knew no harm would come to me (since it was lucid) I just let it rip.

I got lazy and stopped practicing the techniques to have lucid dreams. It requires discipline...but maybe I should practice again...

posted 11-30-2000 03:11 PM            

Do autobody experiences count...or no?

posted 11-30-2000 08:20 PM            

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Originally posted by richbo:
i have alot of lucid dreams and it really does help manipulate events. i don't spend any kind of exercises for it.

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how do your lucid dreams begin? what happens in them?

posted 11-30-2000 09:07 PM            

You're so very right. I asked my Aunt how could God let this little girl wander like that. She said that the little girl was too scared to cross over, and that God sent her to me because I could be trusted.

posted 11-30-2000 09:46 PM            

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Originally posted by wordwrangler:
strangely enough, when I turned to the second page of this thread, I had to re-log onto my computer but when I clicked to post, my handle and password were still active. Hmmm.

Anyway, I just posted on the other thread. I've had a few "knowing" experiences. Two of my sisters have more of them and I think another sister blocks all possibilities of knowing more than physical reality. Anyway, I've been pondering life changes for several months and sometimes my son asks timely questions about things I've been thinking about. It kind of startles me. Not long ago, my husband had been working long, long hours and it was really getting to the kids. One night, my husband managed to get home in time for me to lie down with my son at bedtime. My son said, "It's a good thing dad got home early so you could lie down with me." And I thought, "well, not early, on time." And my son said, "well, not early, on time." THAT made me very aware that even our thoughts can be projected.

Now, about ghosts and such. When we first moved into this house, my son who was then four, started having to sleep in our room. Even as an infant he didn't want to sleep with us but all of a sudden and for about a year and a half, he slept on the floor in our room. A couple of years go by and now our daughter, who's four, won't sleep in her room. (Different room, same side of house) She wouldn't even go in her room for a long time and sometimes still won't. Even in the daytime, she's acted afraid of something in the hallway and in her brother's room. When I asked her about it she said she sees ghosts. We close the door to his room and hers. It was a little better for a few months but lately she's been afraid again. I try to tell her that the ghosts won't hurt her and I'm here to protect her. She tries to tell herself that it's her imagination scaring her. What should I do? I've thought I should teach her to call upon her deceased loved ones, like her recently dead great-grandmother and my long dead mother, asking them to protect her. Anyone?

wordwrangler

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wordwrangler,

That's a hard one. Children are more receptive to these kinds of things. My little guy is four and he won't go anywhere in the house by himself. I know that we have other presences here, though I've never seen them. A friend of mine is a medicine woman and she told me that we have "sprites". I'm not sure what that is, I can only assume that she meant spirits. The only thing that I could do was tell them that if they scared my children, they had to leave.

I think that children at a certain age are afraid because they don't understand. When they start to become more cognisant, they start to see things in more concrete terms. And when they see things that don't make sense, it scares them.

Is there somebody who is recently deceased that she knew? That would definitely make her feel better. But I think that all it's going to take is a lot of patience on your part. I know it's not easy, I have to drop everything to go to the bathroom with him, or go to get a certain toy, but it makes him feel more secure.

Good luck, and hugs to the little ones

posted 11-30-2000 10:10 PM            

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Originally posted by familysecrets:
These stories are amazing!!
My first out of body experience happened when I was seven. I witnessed the murder of my Great Uncle. I was actually there, and I know he saw me before he was shot. It was a very brutal murder and when I woke up my mother had to stay by my bedside the whole night because I couldn't stop my teeth from chatterting.
It opened some kind of a door in my head because I still dream of others being murdered.

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Oh my God! Are you serious? That must have been terrifying, you poor sweetie!

Hugs for you,

isulte

posted 12-01-2000 06:19 AM            

thanks and I, too, drop everything to go with her to go pee. All I can really do is reassure her. I do however send thoughts to the spirits not to hurt her.

posted 12-01-2000 11:12 AM            

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Originally posted by wordwrangler:
isulte,

thanks and I, too, drop everything to go with her to go pee. All I can really do is reassure her. I do however send thoughts to the spirits not to hurt her.

a sprite is a little, impish spirit, sort of like a fairy. that's my take anyway.

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wordwrangler,

I spoke to my mother about this when it started happening here. She told me to say it out loud, they can't hear our thoughts. Believe me, it feels kinda silly (been there), but it does make you feel better.

It makes sense, what you said about sprites. It's funny, now that you mention it, my cat sees these things too. She'll just sit there with this terrified look, staring at something I can't see. It must be something small because she's always looking straight ahead, at her own level. She'll look like she's about to pounce and all of a sudden, she'll tear off, hell bent for leather in the other direction. It's actually quite funny because I don't think they're trying to scare her. She's just a major fraidy cat.

Thanks for the insight!

isulte

posted 12-08-2000 07:45 AM            

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Originally posted by discoducky:
i believe in lucid dreams, but i don't believe you can just have an outer body experience as easily as people have described here. (i am a bit of a skeptic)

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posted 12-08-2000 08:58 AM            

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Originally posted by discoducky:
i believe in lucid dreams, but i don't believe you can just have an outer body experience as easily as people have described here. (i am a bit of a skeptic)

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Believe me, it's not easy. I've never had a lucid dream, not for want of effort though. I started trying when I began reading Carlos Castaneda. It never came about, that's why the out of body experience was such a splendid surprise. If it was easy, I would've had more than one of those wonderful experiences. It was completely awe striking. I think it's the everyday living which bogs us down so much that makes it hard. We're too grounded in our problems and such.

I think I'm gonna start trying again. In lucid dreams, aren't you supposed to start by looking at your hands? If you can see your hands, or the backs of your hands you know that it's a lucid dream? I'll have to pay Carlos another visit.

I've missed this topic, it was burried for a while there. Good show Isabel, for bringin' it back! Hazza Hazza

Bumpin' it up again!

isulte

posted 12-08-2000 10:11 AM            

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Originally posted by hagbard13:
Question reality. "when you perceive the world as being ordinary, you are ordinary. when you perceive the world as extraordinary, you cease to be an ordinary man" And you cease to be treated like one by the world as well. When the jig is up, it's up. It's not as if the world doesn't SENSE this. Question the things you see, look at them a new way, you might be surprised by the results.

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posted 12-08-2000 03:35 PM            

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Originally posted by hagbard13:
You focus on your hands for as long as you can each time. The hard part is looking at your hands in the first place. I find it easier to lie down on the ground, and hold my hands above my face. I usually see the moon or sun behind them, and i just look at the spaces in between where the light shines through. That makes it easier. Then you try to notice the things around you, once you've mastered that. And focus on one thing for as long as you can, hold each image. It takes a long time.

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That's right! I remember now. I remember saying to myself in my dreams, okay...now! Look at your hands!! You have to look at your hands NOW! But everytime, the dream took off from there, making everything including my hands obscure. Usually when trying this, my dreams turned into the flying dream, or the being able to breath under water dream. Maybe I wasn't ready to be lucid, but I find the other dreams to be very liberating.

It does take a very long time, but I think I will try again.

Thanks hagbard13!!

isulte

posted 12-09-2000 12:01 AM            

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Originally posted by Isabel:
Has anyone read/written about spiritual or outer body experiences?

Thanx, Isabel

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