posted 04-09-2001 08:33 AM            

DON'T READ THE PARAGRAPH BELOW IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO KNOW WHO THE WINNER IS. IT KIND OF TOOK SOME OF MY INTEREST AWAY WHEN I FOUND OUT.

posted 04-09-2001 08:34 AM            

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Originally posted by wrighty8:
The Survivor winner filed their taxes and their accountant let it leak to the lawyer of a local radio station. I don't know if it's 100% reliable, but in case it is I will hide the person's name in the paragraph below.

DON'T READ THE PARAGRAPH BELOW IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO KNOW WHO THE WINNER IS. IT KIND OF TOOK SOME OF MY INTEREST AWAY WHEN I FOUND OUT.

you should not be rEading this paragraph unLess your desIre iS to know who wins becAuse it could ruin all suBsequEnT sHows for you...

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Wrighty, you should have been a World War II cryptographer.

posted 04-09-2001 12:13 PM            

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Originally posted by cmclippe:
I've heard this from other sources. I've Also heard who Makes second place, BEating the other Rejects.

It's important to remember Mark Burnett promised he'd let out several false leads, just to confuse any genuine leads that pop up. However, I think you're right. Let's call it Kelly's revenge.

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i can see them both being overlooked because they are so non-threatening. and if this is true, then this weeks vote Can OnLy Be assumed to be made for You know who...

posted 04-10-2001 07:47 AM            

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Originally posted by laser braids:
Hee. You folks are cute!

Every other prediction I've ever read has been wrong, so I'm not going to assume anything from your little codes.

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cerTainly, don't assume anytHing... wE're just Havin' somE fun. you'LL do a Whole lot better If you formulaTe tHeories on Your Own. oUr thoughTs on tHis arE unproven aNyway.

posted 04-12-2001 08:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Couchguy:
Wow, everyone was really right on the nose with their predictions of Amber finishing second, and...oh, never mind.

Your pal,
Couchguy

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Re-read my post... I only say I'd heard Amber comes in second. I also say this could be part of Mark Burnett's disinformation campaign.

I only said I believed Elis. is the winner. But I'm not so sure now. I gotta strong feeling about Colby somehow beating the odds and winning the whole thing.

posted 04-13-2001 06:17 AM            

When cmclippe added that he heard Amber was 2nd, I said "IF" that is true, then Colby goes this week.

posted 04-13-2001 08:25 AM            

Unless the IRS requires you to file income you haven't yet received...

posted 04-13-2001 09:05 AM            

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Originally posted by Couchguy:
Well, buddy, considering that they aren't going to know who won the million dollars until the votes are counted LIVE a few weeks from now on the Survivor finale, I think someone has been shoveling some shit about Elisabeth's filing her taxes.

Unless the IRS requires you to file income you haven't yet received...

Your pal,
Couchguy

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Actually, the show is taped, genius....
Ooops, I mean "know-it-all".

The competitors already know what they've won. Elisabeth's accountant (supposedly) told a lawyer friend who works for a radio station (WAAF) in Boston, where she lives. (Newton is 20 minutes west of Boston) And they mentioned it on the radio.

Maybe they're lying...
Maybe the guy's yanking their chain...
Maybe it's the truth...
Either way, as I said, that's what I heard.

I've heard that Survivor can refuse to pay them if they leak it out so part of me questions the validity of what they said.
However, as it is tax-time, and the show filmed in 2000, NOT 2001, they are required to file those winnings on in their 2000 tax returns. So a part of me believes the story.

posted 04-13-2001 09:30 AM            

Everyone knows the show is taped. But if the producers do not PAY the million until the episode is aired, then Couchguy is correct.

Unlike corporations, we do not pay taxes on amounts we earned in 2000 unless we are actually paid the money. (I think that's true, anyway. I've never been PROMISED a million dollars, so I'm not sure.) Cash-basis vs. accrual-basis accounting.

So assuming Mark Burnett was not stupid enough to pay Elizabeth already, the story must be false. It was an interesting diversion, though.

posted 04-13-2001 09:34 AM            

What do I think?
I don't know anymore.
How's that for a definite maybe?

Besides, if I won money, I would look to pay the taxes on it as soon as possible to avoid it sneaking up on me later (like capital gains). And it's very easy to get an extension. She could have filed and send a small check now, and she'll pay the rest when she gets her money in another month or two.

No, I don't think Mark Burnett is stupid, but I wouldn't put the move past Elisabeth. She comes from a very wealthy, affluent town chuck full of lawyers and accountants. I would not doubt that she had been advised to file immediately to avoid the payout next year when she might be broke and not have it available.

I mean advised before she even knew how much she won because they all win some money for being on the show, even the first one voted off.

posted 04-13-2001 11:12 AM            

I realize you're not 100% reliable. We can count on you for at least 65%.

And in this case, you're wrong. The Survivor Finale has NOT been taped yet. The votes HAVE been cast, but nobody knows what the results are.

The "tribal council vote lockbox" will be opened on a special Survivor finale, and only then will anyone (other than maybe Rob Burnett and a couple key staffers) know who has won the million.

I'm sure since you earn a good living that if someone told you in December 2000, "I'm going to pay you a million dollars next May" that you would not go out and report that as income received in 2000.

Or maybe you would, because you're such a smart guy.

That's known as "trouncing your argument with facts, logic, and sarcasm." You want fries with that?

posted 04-13-2001 11:39 AM            

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Originally posted by Couchguy:
Wrighty,

I realize you're not 100% reliable. We can count on you for at least 65%.

And in this case, you're wrong. The Survivor Finale has NOT been taped yet. The votes HAVE been cast, but nobody knows what the results are.

The "tribal council vote lockbox" will be opened on a special Survivor finale, and only then will anyone (other than maybe Rob Burnett and a couple key staffers) know who has won the million.

I'm sure since you earn a good living that if someone told you in December 2000, "I'm going to pay you a million dollars next May" that you would not go out and report that as income received in 2000.

Or maybe you would, because you're such a smart guy.

That's known as "trouncing your argument with facts, logic, and sarcasm." You want fries with that?

Your pal,
Couchguy

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So am I understanding (and I am serious here for a minute) that they got down to the final two people, sent everyone home, and will fly them and the jury back in 5 or 6 weeks to film the final show live with the big vote???

That doesn't make sense. I had not heard that anywhere. Then again, I only watch the show, I don't read all the background BS.

Or are you saying, that they have simply kept the final two and the jury there for over 6 months?
Filming it last year over a period of 40 days, spent a couple months editing (and waiting for the new season), then four months of the actual show once a week for 16 weeks, then they film the finale live, and then everybody gets to go home?

Either way, it sounds a little far fetched, no?

I think you're makin' up shit now, Couch.
C'mon, admit it.
And when you get annoyed, your lack of real intelligence shines brightly through.

Also, I am 100% reliable. In fact, I responsibly stated to all that I, myself, questioned the reliability of the info I had heard on the radio.

Finally, for the record, this all started when you slammed my idea for no reason other than to highlight your own. So don't try to rally the support of the other readers by painting me as the aggressor here. You sent the first shot accross the bow, not me.

posted 04-13-2001 12:01 PM            

The jury has already voted. The votes were sealed. They'll all reunite for a special show when the votes are revealed.

Did I make it simple enough for you?

Is that still too far-fetched for you?

Considering they had a special reunion show featuring all 16 of the first Survivors immediately following the first season finale, does that seem like a real wild proposition? That the network would DO EXACTLY THE SAME THING, ONLY THIS TIME HOLD THE VOTES BACK UNTIL THE NIGHT OF THE SHOW, TO ENHANCE THE EXCITEMENT? Still way out there, old timer?

Fuck you.

Your pal,
Couchguy

posted 04-13-2001 12:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Couchguy:
Don't call me son. It's an insult to my father.

The jury has already voted. The votes were sealed. They'll all reunite for a special show when the votes are revealed.

Did I make it simple enough for you?

Is that still too far-fetched for you?

Considering they had a special reunion show featuring all 16 of the first Survivors immediately following the first season finale, does that seem like a real wild proposition? That the network would DO EXACTLY THE SAME THING, ONLY THIS TIME HOLD THE VOTES BACK UNTIL THE NIGHT OF THE SHOW, TO ENHANCE THE EXCITEMENT? Still way out there, old timer?

Fuck you.

Your pal,
Couchguy

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I knew it!
I knew I could get the F-word out of ya!
How'd it feel to use a big-boy word, SON?

Know-it-alls like you always break down when you give them enough time and enough pressure to do it.
You're God complex and Holier-than-thou attitude seems to go smashing out the window once you've shown some animosity, doesn't it there, Couch-KID?

p.s. Did you pee yourself when you wrote the F-word?

posted 04-13-2001 12:34 PM            

However, you're still the big loser here.

1. I didn't "fire the first shot across your bow" simply to highlight my own theory. If I did, show us the post. You can't do it. I merely pointed out that nobody knows who won yet, because the votes haven't been counted.

2. You are the aggressor. In your post #4, you sarcastically call me PAL, and "genius" in post #5...prior to anything from me other than pointing out that you erred when thinking the show had already been taped. Then, in post #7, you called me "know-it-all" and wittily claimed that I work at McDonald's.

So here are some of the errors in fact which you have so brilliantly displayed in this thread.

1. You are unaware that the Survivor votes have not yet been tallied, nor that a special live show will air revealing those votes.

2. You state that it's a good idea to pay taxes on $1,000,000 in income that you haven't received yet...how will a 23 year old put her hands on $400,000 to send to the IRS if she hasn't received it yet? I'm sure you have the answer. It will be incorrect, but you'll have an answer.

3. You said I only had 2 days left to file my taxes. Fortunately, I am smart enough to realize that the Post Office is closed on Sunday and the tax filing deadline is April 16 this year.

I'm not holier than thou.

I'm smarter than thou.

You stupid fuck. (Did you pee yourself with glee when you read that word again? Ooo, you've won the battle of wits! You got me to cuss at you right after I showed everyone who has read this thread what an ignorant idiot you are.)

Hey, are you the boss in Dilbert? The guy who has absolutely NO clue how anything works, yet cruises through life thinking his shit don't stink?

Hurry along now, you only have those two days left to pay taxes on the income you might earn next year.

What a dumbass.

posted 04-13-2001 01:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Couchguy:
No, I didn't pee myself, because it isn't the first time I've used it.

However, you're still the big loser here.

(YOU SCRUTINIZE EVERY WORD OF EVERY THREAD ON THESE BOARDS BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE TIME TO DO IT, AND I'M THE LOSER??? RICH, VERY RICH.)

1. I didn't "fire the first shot across your bow" simply to highlight my own theory. If I did, show us the post. You can't do it. I merely pointed out that nobody knows who won yet, because the votes haven't been counted.

(YOU DID FIRE THE FIRST, UNCALLED FOR, SHOT AGAINST ME IN RENEE'S THREAD)

2. You are the aggressor. In your post #4, you sarcastically call me PAL, and "genius" in post #5...prior to anything from me other than pointing out that you erred when thinking the show had already been taped. Then, in post #7, you called me "know-it-all" and wittily claimed that I work at McDonald's.

(ACTING LIKE MY SARCASM WAS NOT OFTEN PROMPTED BY YOURS, IS LAUGHABLE. PATRONIZING EVERYONE ON THESE BOARDS BY SIGNING "YOUR PAL" EVEN WHEN YOU GIVE BACKHANDED COMPLIMENTS IS INSULTING, AS ARE YOU.)

So here are some of the errors in fact which you have so brilliantly displayed in this thread.

(ALONG WITH ALL OF YOUR FLAWS THAT I HAVE ACCURATELY HIGHLIGHTED FOR EVERYONE TO WITNESS. I DON'T MIND LOWERING MYSELF DOWN A FEW PEGS IF IT'S IN THE EFFORT OF BRINGING DOWN A PHONY LIKE YOURSELF.)

1. You are unaware that the Survivor votes have not yet been tallied, nor that a special live show will air revealing those votes.

(HEY, I LIKE THE SHOW. I DON'T HAVE TIME TO SIT AROUND STUDYING IT LIKE YOU, YA LOSER!)

2. You state that it's a good idea to pay taxes on $1,000,000 in income that you haven't received yet...how will a 23 year old put her hands on $400,000 to send to the IRS if she hasn't received it yet? I'm sure you have the answer. It will be incorrect, but you'll have an answer.

(IF SHE DID, IN FACT, WIN, YOU TOUCH ON EXACTLY WHY SHE SHOULD DO IT. AS I CLEARLY STATED, IT'S VERY COMMON AND EASY TO APPLY FOR AN EXTENSION. IF SHE WON, SHE WOULD RATHER PAY THE TAXES ON IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE INSTEAD OF TRYING TO SAVE ENOUGH OF THE WINNINGS TO PAY THE TAXES NEXT YEAR. "PAY IT WHILE YOU HAVE IT".
A LOT OF PEOPLE MADE A LOT OF MONEY IN THE MARKET BOOM. THEY SPENT THEIR MARKET EARNINGS LIKE THE BOOM WOULD LAST FOREVER.
THEN THE CRASH, PORTFOLIOS DWINDLED, BUT THE GOV. STILL WANTS THE TAXES FROM THOSE GAINS. THE SMART ONES ALREADY PUT THAT MONEY ASIDE, OTHERS DIDN'T AND MANY ARE NOW FILING FOR BANKRUPTCY. AGAIN, AS YOU MENTIONED, SHE'S A YOUNG GIRL WHO MAY GO WILD WITH THE MONEY (if she did, in fact, win) AND MAY NOT BE SMART ENOUGH TO KEEP ENOUGH ASIDE FOR TAX PURPOSES NEXT YEAR. IF SHE CLEANS IT UP NOW, EVEN IF BY TAKING AN EXTENSION, SHE DOESN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT SAVING FOR NEXT YEAR.
SIMPLE ENOUGH FOR YOU?
KEEP IT IN MIND IN CASE YOU EVER GET A REAL JOB.)

3. You said I only had 2 days left to file my taxes. Fortunately, I am smart enough to realize that the Post Office is closed on Sunday and the tax filing deadline is April 16 this year.

(WHATEVER...)

I'm not holier than thou.

(RIGHT, YOU'RE NOT)

I'm smarter than thou.

(NO, YOU'RE NOT, AND THAT IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN PROVING TO YOU. YOU ARE NOT EVEN CLOSE TO BEING THE SMARTEST PERSON ON THESE BOARDS BUT YOU ALWAYS ACT LIKE YOU ARE. THAT IS WHY I DECIDED NOT TO LET YOUR ORIGINAL BACKHANDED COMPLIMENT GO WITHOUT MENTIONING. AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE GOING AT IT NOW.)

You stupid fuck. (Did you pee yourself with glee when you read that word again? Ooo, you've won the battle of wits! You got me to cuss at you right after I showed everyone who has read this thread what an ignorant idiot you are.)

(I NEVER CLAIMED TO BE THE SMARTEST PERSON, OR BEST WRITER ON THESE BOARDS. TECHNICALLY, NEITHER DID YOU. BUT YOU SURE AS HELL IMPLIED IT WITH YOUR COCKY WRITINGS.)

Hey, are you the boss in Dilbert? The guy who has absolutely NO clue how anything works, yet cruises through life thinking his shit don't stink?

(NO, I'M A GUY WHO KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT I'M CAPABLE OF, WHAT MY LIMITS ARE, AND WHAT PSEUDO-INTELLECTS, LIKE YOURSELF, ARE ALL ABOUT.)

Hurry along now, you only have those two days left to pay taxes on the income you might earn next year.

(MY TAXES HAVE BEEN DONE FOR QUITE SOME TIME NOW. HAD A GOOD YEAR IN THE MARKET. FORTUNATELY, I PUT ENOUGH ASIDE TO PAY OFF THE TAXES. WHERE HAVE I HEARD THAT BEFORE?)

What a dumbass.

(BELIEVE ME WHEN I TELL YOU THIS, COUCH-PUSSY... I'M A DUMB-ASS WHO COULD SNAP YOUR NECK LIKE A TWIG.)

Your pal,
Couchguy

(YOU'RE NO PAL OF MINE.)

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posted 04-13-2001 01:53 PM            

What I don't often do is make so many errors of FACT when I post. My opinions might not agree with yours, but at least I get my facts straight.

So, to recap.

1. You get your Survivor news from rumors on the radio, yet you weren't aware of the Survivor finale, which has been in the news recently. It doesn't take a lot of searching to find it.

2. You stubbornly insist that a person who MIGHT earn a million dollars in the NEXT tax year should go ahead and pay those taxes this year. This is idiocy at its finest.

Yes, you should pay taxes on a million dollars WHEN YOU EARN IT. But, genius, she HASN'T EARNED IT. Hello, McFly!

3. I never said I was the smartest person on these boards. I just said I was smarter than you. Luckily, it isn't hard to prove this point.

4. Oh, you mean I don't have to pay my taxes by April 15 this year, since it's a Sunday? You weren't smart enough to realize that? Whatever, indeed.

5. Congrats on your good year. That shows that even clueless people who don't know jack about writing, analyzing writing, current events, or even when taxes are due, can thrive and succeed. What a country!

Yeah, you make a lot of money and can snap me like a twig. Weak minds often fall back on the size of their wallet or the size of their biceps when they can't make a point any other way. Flex for me, Wallet Boy. Pose down. Oh, yeah, oil up for us. Mmmmm. Yes, looking good there. Hey, is that a wad of Franklins in your front-facing fanny pack, or are you just happy to see me?

posted 04-13-2001 02:01 PM            

the show is not over. you calm your winnings when the contest is offically over and when you receive the cash. no money has been exchanged so she didnt get a 1099. Not for last year. She will have to pay her taxes on the cash next year.

for example,
if you win the lottery... dec 15th 2000. and you receive your check on jan 3rd 2001... ummm you dont claim the winnings for tax year 2000. cause you didnt get it in 2000.

posted 04-13-2001 02:05 PM            

Fact: The advice I provide for someone who will receive that much money and may very well spend it all prior to next tax season is sound. IF she won the money in 2000, and will have it within a few months, then she should ask for the extension and pay it on the front end (in 2000's taxes) so she pays it when she has the money. She may not have it next year and then she'd be screwed.

I can't possibly explain that any simpler to you. If you don't understand, then you are the idiot. So, I'm done talking about that.

And I did say this all along, my advice is good IF, IF, IF, she did actually win first prize when THE SHOW WAS FILMED LAST YEAR IF SHE KNOWS SHE ALREADY WON.

posted 04-13-2001 02:05 PM            

Peace out.

posted 04-13-2001 02:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Couchguy:
I unilaterally declare all hostilities between myself and Wrighty8 are at an end.

Peace out.

Your pal,
Couchguy

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Where's the fun in that?