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psichick Member	posted 04-12-2001 04:54 PM And, I don't mean on closed circuit TV. I mean on state-wide television? Do you think if it WERE allowed, it would help deter crime? IP: Logged
julie Member	posted 04-12-2001 04:56 PM NO psichick my answer is NO It does not deter crime. IT DOES NOT DETER CRIME. IP: Logged
psichick Member	posted 04-12-2001 05:11 PM How do we know that, Julie? My own opinion is that executions, period, should be outlawed, but, if they were, would crime go up? Death is God's decision, and shouldn't be mankind's. IP: Logged
CDNFilm Member	posted 04-12-2001 05:47 PM I think what has to be realized is this- Many, if not all the people that commit such crimes that are punishable by death, are severely touched in the head. Those who have yet to commit their heinous acts will not be affected by televised executions. Specific example - Sociopaths. They have no concept of other people, or the fact that other people experience emotions, pain, etcetera. Someone ailing from this disorder who watches an execution on television won't be deterred, they will most likely be entertained. While we're on the topic of the death penalty, I have a question- Does it make sense to anyone else that executing a person for committing a crime is only glorifying the incident, as well as, to some extent, sinking to the same level as the guilty party? While I've never personally lost a loved one to a crime such as murder (or what have you), a friend of mine's brother was murdered just over two months ago. Talking to her about what happened she made it clear on more than one occasion that she would rather see the guy rot in prison for the rest of his life, as opposed to being executed. The death penalty is a way for the government and the police to wash their hands of the crimes that they fail to prevent. -e [This message has been edited by CDNFilm (edited 04-12-2001).] IP: Logged
molly49 Member	posted 04-12-2001 06:06 PM i think we all know (or at least ones who have really thought about it) that death penalty is not about deterrence... this is just obscene. they die..they pay their "debt" to society...the people with a vested interest are able to attend...there is no need for there to be more witnesses. IP: Logged
HideandSeek Member	posted 04-12-2001 10:27 PM I'm with Larry Niven. Cut them up and put them in the organ banks. That way one killer can help perhaps five people to live and improve the lives of many others. Now that's paying your debt to society.... You could televise the harvest if you like. That would probably act as a deterrent. Cuts down on repeat offences too. Bottom line - the electric chair ruins so many good spare parts. H&S; IP: Logged
foofies Member	posted 04-13-2001 07:21 AM no. it's too much like 'faces of death'. IP: Logged
Sachet Member	posted 04-13-2001 07:30 AM Ooow, ick! No way! Reminds me of Madam LeFarge! If anything, it would likely ENCOURAGE crime: people wanting to have their 15 minutes and willing to do ANYTHING to get it! And that's not to mention the prurient interests in people's baser natures that it would encourage. Terrible, terrible idea! IP: Logged
r_callicotte Member	posted 04-13-2001 07:35 AM PUBLIC EXECUTIONS ONLY for mass killers and thoroughly-tried cases of child abuse. Otherwise, we should think about my theory: Get a well-guarded island and put the murderers on the island to survive for themselves (totally). If they try to get off of the island, they are shot and left for the sharks. Imagine thinking about going to that island and trying to live = hell on earth. [This message has been edited by r_callicotte (edited 04-13-2001).] IP: Logged
dharris Member	posted 04-13-2001 07:37 AM I really like that organ donor idea. IP: Logged
gdaddyq Member	posted 04-13-2001 07:43 AM quote: Originally posted by r_callicotte: PUBLIC EXECUTIONS ONLY for mass killers and thoroughly-tried cases of child abuse. Otherwise, we should think about my theory: Get a well-guarded island and put the murderers on the island to survive for themselves (totally). If they try to get off of the island, they are shot and left for the sharks. Imagine thinking about going to that island and trying to live = hell on earth. wasn't that [island idea] a bad ray liotta movie? IP: Logged
r_callicotte Member	posted 04-13-2001 07:44 AM quote: Originally posted by HideandSeek: I'm with Larry Niven. Cuts down on repeat offences too. H&S; IP: Logged
r_callicotte Member	posted 04-13-2001 07:45 AM Nope. My idea. quote: Originally posted by gdaddyq: wasn't that [island idea] a bad ray liotta movie? IP: Logged
molly49 Member	posted 04-13-2001 07:50 AM no way i've seen that movie... IP: Logged
gdaddyq Member	posted 04-13-2001 07:51 AM quote: Originally posted by r_callicotte: Nope. My idea. so somebody stole it turned it into a bad ray liotta movie? that sucks... IP: Logged
r_callicotte Member	posted 04-13-2001 07:58 AM I hadn't seen the Ray Liotta movie. But, I think it is a good idea. Here are some of my reasons: 1. Crime Deterrent - imagine thinking of going to this island, if you murder someone. 2. Less cost to us (the normal people). 3. No government overhead. Just drop them off and have guards with AK-47s who watch them around the clock (the only logistical concern). IP: Logged
dharris Member	posted 04-13-2001 09:07 AM quote: Originally posted by gdaddyq: so somebody stole it turned it into a bad ray liotta movie? that sucks... Yeah, they stole it from a little place called "Australia" which started out as a penal colony. IP: Logged
r_callicotte Member	posted 04-13-2001 09:16 AM And see what happened? Now we have Survivor! IP: Logged
Rigmutt Member	posted 04-13-2001 09:49 AM quote: Originally posted by gdaddyq: so somebody stole it turned it into a bad ray liotta movie? that sucks... "No Escape" Not that bad a movie, actually, if we compare it with other beauties of this era: Eye of the Beholder Judge Dredd Demolition Man Karate Kid III Dude, Where's My Car? IP: Logged
psichick Member	posted 04-13-2001 02:56 PM Wow, I didn't mean to be THAT controversial! I do not believe in executions, period, so televising them, to me, is like going back in time to the Romans and gladiators. Barbaric! Thanks for your opinions! IP: Logged

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