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queenie
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posted 10-23-2000 03:35 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You said "no exceptions!" You stick to your guns!

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daydream
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posted 10-23-2000 03:38 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's right!! If people hadn't finished in time they probably spent too much time chatting on these boards. For those of us who follow the rules it would almost be a slap in the face if you did extend the deadline.

If they missed out they can enter next year!!!!!!!!!!!

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Grimlock
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posted 10-23-2000 03:48 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I gotta say, when it comes down to it, you knew the deadline was October 22nd. For whatever reasons, be it Greenlight's slow site or your own procrastination, October 22nd was a ridiculously bad day to try and get your script uploaded.

This contest has been advertised for SIX MONTHS. There are over 2000 scripts that were submitted correctly and early. It is not TechSupport's fault you waited until the last day. That fault lies with yourself.

TechSupport, stick to your guns, as queenie said. Don't you dare extend the deadline. If the multiple pop-up windows and email reminders and ads in the freakin' Entertainment Weekly weren't enough hints for people, then hey, there's always next year.

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moonwind333
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posted 10-23-2000 03:49 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
T.S. - You gave plenty of warning concerning the deadline. I was getting tired of that pop-up window over and over, but it was there for a reason. Why people wait 'til the last minute is something I will never figure out, but they do - and then cry when it is too late. In school you were flunked for not turning in your assignments on time. I feel for them, I really do, but what did they expect, that each one was the only one that waited? I'm surprised Adobe isn't on here complaining about the "freebes" tying up their site! I am really sorry for any and all who did not meet the deadline, and if there had not been warning after warning not to wait, I might be able to see extending the deadline. But warning was given!

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tocnkat
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posted 10-23-2000 03:50 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Add me to the pissed list. Besides rules are rules people so get over it.

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mule1
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posted 10-23-2000 04:13 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i agree. let's take some responsibility for those who were able to make a deadline. Is that not what film-making, writing, and the likes are all about: Deadlines?

I think so.

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Heizer
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posted 10-23-2000 04:16 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Serious contestants surely could have had their scripts uploaded before last night. And those of us who got in on time have waited long enough to continue this process, postponing the submission period will only lengthen the review period, thereby making the rest of us wait even longer.

Yes, there are exceptions to the rule. Yes, there are going to be some good scripts that don't get in. But if these writers are really serious and really want to be writers, then there are other contests. In fact, aren't you talking about doing this one every year? These late people can take the next year to revise their work and make it truly a script to remember.

I hope people don't think we are trying to disclude them; that is the last thing we want. We are simply trying to make this contest fair for the people who followed the rules and did what they were supposed to. I feel for those people that didn't get in. I really do. But how many of those people didn't have ample knowledge of the contest's existence, or the deadline? Very few. As I said before, the writers that are really serious will press on. With or without this contest.

I'll shut up now. Heizer

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pattemillerhedman
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posted 10-23-2000 05:04 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree!!!
We had to do it on time.
We all predicted earlier that this might happen and unfortunatly it did.
Don't let them get you down.
YOU GUYS DID A GREAT JOB...BRAVO.

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Elusion
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posted 10-23-2000 05:11 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In support of sticking to the deadline.

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MJFryar
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posted 10-23-2000 05:21 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Normally I don't want to be the tech guy who announces he's a tech guy (cos I HATE when people do that to me...)

But I gotta say that I am beyond impressed with the job you guys and gals are doing. Really. Seriously.

But this sudden incessant whining is really, really annoying. A deadline is a deadline. As a writer, I've always made sure that my stuff was in well ahead of time, if for no other reason than it could be edited.

People were given plenty of warning.
People are well aware of the vaguries of the Internet. Well, if they weren't before, they are now.

They just have a submission for next year!!

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Liny
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posted 10-23-2000 05:50 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Yet another supporter of sticking to the deadline rules, no extensions.

Hmmm, I wonder if a patient needing a heart transplant to live, would ummm, let's say, wait until he was gagging for breath to call a doctor?? Hmmmmm.....u think?...maybe just take a few rolaids and figure he can wait it out 'til the last minute and maybe, just maybe, pick up one of those "extra" hearts lieing around in such great abundance at Hearts R Us drive thru!!

Guess they would think a heart would take priority, hence a writer, meeting the deadline...but then that's just my take, what would I know, I submitted back in the stone age...

I'm with you queenie...stick to your guns PGL!

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dreamchaser
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posted 10-23-2000 06:03 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great Job!

Extending the deadline would be unprofessional, which you obviously are not.

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Liny
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posted 10-23-2000 07:07 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*bump*

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stony girl
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posted 10-23-2000 07:35 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It was after all announced in JULY!

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nyhofstra
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posted 10-23-2000 07:40 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have to stick to this deadline. Stay with the rules as stated. Please.

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Jimmy James
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posted 10-23-2000 08:09 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Damn right! I beleive it is only fair to the people that where well prepared.
Any one who missed the deadline tough love ya'll.
And for all of you who didn't make it, don't come talking shite in the website either.
I'm sure your all talented but we don't need to hear a bunch of whining.
Good luck next time boys and girlies.

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filmasart
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posted 10-24-2000 02:23 AM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Who couldn't have used an extra three weeks of re-writing, tweaking, feedback from other sources, or just plain prepping the script?

All of us could, but I was too worried about this upload process (having never attempted anything like it before).

I'm sorry for all of those who missed out, but I am indeed addressing you by the proper term. "Those who missed out".

If it were me, I would be upset and dissapointed, but not at Project Greenlight. What they are doing here is amazing. I would have been pissed at myself. I'm not the type of person who hesitates to point the finger back at myself when I know that is where the blame lies.

So please, don't whine about it or get down on this groundbreaking concept. Join the boards, get everything out of it that you possibly can, and be better prepared for the next contest than any of us were this year.

You've got your backup queenie. I'll never hesitate to back those who have right on their sides.

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filmann
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posted 10-24-2000 04:21 AM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm sorry, but frankly you all can kiss my ass. You sound like a bunch of kids on the playground. Shit does happen and yes people do wait to the last minute but just shut up with it. Do you ever stop to put yourself in the other persons shoes. A person that may have had a problem which he/she couldn't control? Well good job people. The teacher is very happy that you all got your work in on time. Just don't go flaunting it around and pride on yourself cause you met the fucking deadline. That's lame.

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joh
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posted 10-24-2000 04:58 AM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I say extend the deadline! To those who got converted days ahead of time, congratulations, but a even if I submit one minute before the deadline, I should be able to successfully convert and upload my script. That wasn't the case. Adobe, the PGL recommended website) couldn't handle the load. I had my script ready ahead of time. I submitted for conversion SIX hours before the deadline. Adobe kindly returned my file SEVEN hours later. I may not be a techno genius, but I wasn't irresponsible. Stop hammering us and let us in. You will be competing with thousands of others, we are but a few.

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phoenixmer
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posted 10-24-2000 06:28 AM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see what you guys are saying about rules being rules but no matter when you upload it, last day or not, if you get it in before the deadline...it should count. If there is a technological problem, that is not the wirters fault. So whether you got it in 3 months ago, or tried on the due date, you are just as eligible. If someone couldnt get it in because of a technological reason, (or in my case) your personal review isnt coming up nor can you find your script ( which is happening with a lot of people), the people who already uploaded scripts should be allowed to send in another personal review and have their script made available.

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celticjack
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posted 10-24-2000 07:38 AM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was one who had problems with the Adobe site backlog in converted my screenplay and luckily found an alternative and got my script in on time.

However, I submitted my screenplay to Adobe FOUR HOURS before the deadline, which by anyone's estimation should have been enough time to simply upload a text file to a website. We were never told our scripts would have to be converted to PDF format -- with all the harping on industry standards, Greenlight could have mentioned that detail (if I missed it, then they didn't mention it clearly enough).

Every contestant had the right to expect that they could safely submit their screenplay several hours before the deadline. Saying they should have known better and harping on the importance of deadlines in the business is tantamount to blaming someone if they leave an hour early to make a 15-minute drive but get caught in dead-stop three-hour traffic because of a five-car pile up.

I'm not sure about the deadline extension issue, though obviously if I had missed it I would be seeking an extension too. I suggested elsewhere that Greenlight accept any scripts that were submitted to the Adobe site more than an hour before deadline, because those writers followede Greenlight's suggestion of not waiting until the last hour.

Other than that, it sounds to me more like those of you who oppose a deadline extension are doing the whining, about how you got yours in on time and it's not fair to give someone else a little leeway due to major technical problems -- both at Adobe and in Greenlight's own upload process.

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edavid
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posted 10-24-2000 07:42 AM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I glad for all of you who made the deadline. Good luck.

However, many of us did not already have scripts in place when the contest was announced that matched the requirements, ESPECIALLY with the very low million dollar budget. So Oct 22 became a deadline that I took very seriously, even sending my wife and baby out of town for a week to write full time every day.

I graduated from USC film school, so I know deadlines, and I design web sites for a living, so I know what crunch time can mean to an internet server. However, I join the complaining side on this issue as it took Adobe FOURTEEN hours to return my script.

I submitted it four hours before the deadline, which should have been plenty of time, even with a weak server processing the conversion. My files finally showed up the next morning.

When I realized that I wasn't going to get any help from Adobe (this was about two hours before deadline), I tried placing EVERY SINGLE PAGE of my script into PageMaker to try to export it into a PDF, but error messages sprang up like weeds. Of course, no technical support around at that time on a Sunday.

For all the people saying a deadline is a deadline, listen I MET THE DEADLINE. I could have finished my review in plenty of time, even given the fact that the PGL site was moving slow as a snail.

Yes, a deadline is a deadline, but for such a "hip, hi-tech" and highly publicized contest, you would think they would have set up some MIRROR SITES. Or they could have at least sent out emails and/or pop-up windows that said to start the process much earlier. All they said was "don't wait until the last hour" in order to get all the 'paperwork' done, not for the purposes of LAME SERVERS where free programming resides.

Someone will inevitably write that the contest did say they were not liable for any technical problems that might crop up. This is written into ALL online contest legal babble to protect the people putting it on.

Having said all this, do you think it could be possible to still let the people in who can prove that they started the process early enough? I have email replies from Adobe to back up my claims of starting well ahead of schedule. I would be satisfied if given my four hours back to complete my upload and self-review. I think that's fair.

Ugh!

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12vob
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posted 10-24-2000 10:32 AM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am one of the unfortunate souls who did not get his screenplay in on time because of a long turn over from Adobe. But I take full responsibility for the situation that I am in. It's hard to point the finger at yourself, especially in a situation like this.

At this point all I can do is wish those of you who got your screenplay in on time good luck, but don't think you've heard the last from me. I WILL make my mark in the film business, just not through Project Greenlight.

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jlion
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posted 10-24-2000 11:09 AM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I KNOW WHAT A DEADLINE IS! I summited my script by the deadline date! BUT there are some cliches in this uploading process that makes it impossible! If the dealine is October 22, and you try to sumit October 22nd, you should be able to upload fairly. These upload process was not fair!

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