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LonnieSchuyler
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posted 12-15-2000 04:39 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
just passed on my script, but gave me a consider as a writer.

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edgewyze
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posted 12-15-2000 04:54 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LonnieSchuyler:
just passed on my script, but gave me a consider as a writer.

way to go. work it, baby!

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LonnieSchuyler
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posted 12-15-2000 04:56 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what's that mean? maybe just a nice way to say, no thank you.

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carv
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posted 12-15-2000 05:15 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That means you know where to send your next script!

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edgewyze
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posted 12-15-2000 05:21 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LonnieSchuyler:
what's that mean? maybe just a nice way to say, no thank you.

It means that as long as you approach it the right way, you have an in to send them more work. The key is to keep the connection alive, but not to pester them and ONLY send your best work. If they liked the first script but passed, they may read a second script. But if they pass on that TOO, it may be really difficult to get another read. So move with caution. Also if you don't have an agent yet, the fact that New Line likes you as a writer is a selling point, especially if you can name who *specificly* likes your work at New Line.

Good Luck!

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Moose
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posted 12-15-2000 05:21 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, good job. It means they should be willing to look at other scripts from you.

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edgewyze
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posted 12-15-2000 05:22 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oops double post

[This message has been edited by edgewyze (edited 12-15-2000).]

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SirVince
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posted 12-15-2000 05:32 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It means don't give up writing for bowling. They were watching you.

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SirVince
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posted 12-15-2000 05:33 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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smichael
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posted 12-15-2000 05:56 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LonnieSchuyler:
just passed on my script, but gave me a consider as a writer.

You go boi!

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MJarbo
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posted 12-15-2000 08:19 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LonnieSchuyler:
just passed on my script, but gave me a consider as a writer.

where/who did you send your script to?

MJ

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jefferson
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posted 12-15-2000 08:26 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mike de luca from new line says the coming sag strike is a payday for amateur screen writers. unfortunatley for us, we all suck ass at screen writing and couldnt get a greenlight at the pitstop of the indy 500.

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smichael
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posted 12-15-2000 09:02 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's actually a pending WGA strike not SAG (well, SAG theatrical - but that doesn't affect writers). But odds are it won't happen. With all the bullshit from the SAG Commercial strike, I don't think they are gonna be too eager to go through that sorta thing again.

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jefferson
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posted 12-15-2000 09:14 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wga, thats what i meant. you got me.

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LonnieSchuyler
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posted 12-16-2000 01:13 AM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mj, i summitted to judd funk, but the analyst was dan cronin.

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Artra's daughter
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posted 12-16-2000 01:15 AM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
fuck New Line Cinema

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sprk97
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posted 12-16-2000 01:17 AM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah fuck [me] lonnie! whoa...

id like to apologize...please read dommahs excuse thread hehehehe *hiccup* im drunk!

sprk

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LonnieSchuyler
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posted 12-16-2000 01:19 AM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Artra's daughter:
fuck New Line Cinema

lol

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LonnieSchuyler
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posted 12-16-2000 01:34 AM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sprk97:
Yeah fuck [me] lonnie! whoa...

id like to apologize...please read dommahs excuse thread hehehehe *hiccup* im drunk!

sprk


how did i miss this?

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misterorange
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posted 12-16-2000 06:07 AM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is a great article (interview, actually) on Mike De Luca at ptanderson.com (in the news section)

Suggested reading. He's a fascinating guy.

Evan
misterorange.com - C'mon, click me. I dare ya

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ChrisB860
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posted 12-16-2000 10:54 AM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Mr. Orange, I didn't know you were down with the PT Anderson site. Isn't that the greatest fan site ever built? PT even liked it so much he knows the guy who built it...lucky bastard...

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alhorton
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posted 12-18-2000 01:22 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WARNING!!! In 1988 my older brother's best friend wrote a novel titled THINK NO EVIL. New Line Cinema got a hold of it and used the story concept and about 85% of the actual scenes to make the 1992 movie called "The Lawnmower Man." They tried to atribute the work to Stephen King because they owned the rights to his short story of the same title. But King sued them for claiming their movie was based upon his short story, and they paid him over two million dollars to settle. So if you've sent something to New Line Cinema, if it was a great story you can expect to see it as a movie within a couple of years -- without your name on it of course. I'm not kidding, I saw a video my brother's friend prepared that compared passages from his book to scenes from their movie. . .it was over a couple hours long and most were identical (except for character name changes). If you deal with New Line Cinema they will fuck you in the ass, and laugh at you while they do it! There is no morality at Turner's New Line Cinema. Have a nice day.

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12vob
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posted 12-18-2000 01:32 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SO are you saying New Line Cinema was more respectable before Turner bought them?

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alhorton
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posted 12-19-2000 10:58 AM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As far as I know, New Line Cinema has ALWAYS been the worst rip-off artists among the major movie distributors. Under Ted Turner's leadership, they are undoubtedly even worse now. Turner uses his own media to portray himself as some kind of "white knight" of the information age. In reality, he's just another billionaire thief, like Bill Gates. The only difference is that Gates steals from other software companies, while Turner's New Line Cinema steals from individuals who pour their hearts and souls into screenplays, only to see doors closed in their faces and their life's work turned into unaccredited B movies. If I sound a bit negative its because I actually saw what happened, and I wouldn't wish it on ANY writer. If you send ANYTHING good to New Line Cinema, expect it to be stolen! Copyright protection will not help you, they feel it's cheaper to pay good lawyers than to pay good writers. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.

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12vob
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posted 12-19-2000 01:21 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I myself have had dealings with New Line starting back when I was 15 years old and wrote a version of A Nightmare on Elm Street 3. There were two items we had in common. We both brought back Nancy from Part One. In my version Nancy is in a asylum in a straight jacker, and in Dream Warriors the kids are in a half way house. I didn't consider these stolen ideas. Wes Craven also wrote that screenplay and I don't think he needs ideas from me.

Over the years I have sent a number of scripts to New Line. Including a Nightmare on Elm Street 6 which is the only script they refused to read. Nothing from my script was in their Part 6 which is too bad since Part 6 really sucked ass.

To this date I haven't seen anything of my in any version of a New Line movie. Maybe I'm a rare case. Maybe they think my writing and story telling sucks. But they still read my scripts because they enjoyed my first one so much.

I don't know what happened with your friend. If New Line Cinema does steal something from me one day I will say to myself that I should have heeded your warning. Until then I will have to defend them somewhat. I hope you understand.

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alhorton
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posted 12-20-2000 12:46 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Remember, I said if you sent them anything GOOD they would steal it. If you are spending your time writing "Nightmare on Elm Street" sequels, how do you expect to send them anything good?

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12vob
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posted 12-20-2000 01:29 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Its been a very long time since I wrote one of them. The last script I sent them was the script I submitted here. They said it would be too hard to market, thus not what they are looking for. I never got any kind of real feedback on the script itself.

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alhorton
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posted 12-21-2000 09:54 AM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What New Line Cinema looks for are original story concepts, something fresh and new. They then reject the screenplay, but hand it over to one of their affiliated production companies, which have their writers change character names, places and minor details -- enough to claim that their work is "different." That's how these scumbags operate. If you're smart, you'll avoid them like the plague! If you're not smart, I guess you deserve to be ripped off. (NOTE: It is a certainty that New Line Cinema people are in Greenlight to get story ideas, isn't it funny how they haven't responded to these comments?)

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12vob
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posted 12-21-2000 10:15 AM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Going back to your first post. As I recall Stephen King was most unhappy with the Lawnmower Man because of how unlike it was to his short story. With the exception of the scene where Job sends the lownmower after the abusive father. That scene wasn't in your brother's friends was it because that part, from what I've heard, IS in the Stephen King story. And was your brother friend stroy primarily about virtual reality?

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alhorton
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posted 12-21-2000 12:39 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, you are correct sir. "The Lawnmower Man" was a short story about a big fat guy who grazes on the clippings that his lawnmower generates (the lawnmower operates on its own). The lawnmower kills a homeowner who discovers this secret about the lawnmower man. In Ken Close's "Think No Evil," a scientist uses virtual reality to try and unlock the secrets of the human mind. When his project ends at the lab where he works, he continues unauthorized experiments at home in his basement. The experiments make him stronger and smarter, but the power has a corrupting effect on him. Unlike the movie, after going on the final rampage he redeems himself in the end of the book. If New Line Cinema had actually bought the story and shot it as written they would have had a blockbuster, instead of just another B-grade scifi flick. But I guess you don't have to be smart to be in the movie business -- you just have to know somebody. That's why only about 5-6% of the movies released each year are worth seeing!

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12vob
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posted 12-21-2000 12:45 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
YES! Who you know is such a bigger plus than talent. But I'm going to cut myself off right now before I depress myself. Sorry about your friend, but how come your friend couldn't successfully sue New Line. That one guy, I don't remember his name, sue the makes of Eddie Murphy's COMING TO AMERICA and won?

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cjdelli
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posted 12-21-2000 01:57 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Columnist Art Buchwald sued over Coming to America, and though he won his case he received virtually no damages, if any, because studio accounting showed that the movie made no money. This is only my faint recollection, but I think there was a book written about the whole affair.

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alhorton
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posted 12-21-2000 02:28 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's extremely difficult to get money out of copyright lawsuits, especially when you're up against rich, unethical companies like New Line Cinema. Even if you win, they can tie up any judgement against them for several years through appeals. Who knows, they might even bribe judges to get favorable rulings. It's been demonstrated time and time again that the USA has the worst justice system in the entire civilized world. Whoever has the most money wins, period. The only way writers will win is when movie companies begin to realize that when you reward great writing, you'll get more great writing. When you steal, your source shuts down. But, unfortunately, the level of intelligence needed to understand this basic concept is far above the intelligence level of most movie executives! So don't be depressed, just don't give New Line Cinema any good ideas.

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garysinger
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posted 12-22-2000 09:56 AM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Al, you make it seem like we are powerless against rich assholes like Ted Turner and his New Line Cinema. Well, I'm not. I just won't pay to see any New Line Cinema movies. I might watch one on TV, since I pay the cable bill regardless of what I watch. But I won't go to a New Line Cinema movie, and I won't rent their videos. I know I'm only one guy, but if others do the same maybe we can teach these assholes a lesson!

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brianmurphy
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posted 12-22-2000 10:04 AM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Boycott a major movie studio? That's so politically incorrect. . .I love it! I'm asking all my friends not to pay for anything connected to Ted Turner or New Line Cinema. It will be interesting to see if this has any effect at all. POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!!

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galementzer
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posted 12-22-2000 11:37 AM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm joining the boycott of Ted Turner and his New Line Cinema because Turner, the jerk-off billionaire, pays income taxes at a lower marginal tax than the working stiff earning less than one ten-thousandth of what Turner gets in income each year. Turner was born with a silver spoon in is mouth, and he's never had to pay any dues. He played an army officer in the movie "Gettysburg" because he owns the movie company and that's the only way that whimp could ever be a hero. Now his company has been reported to steal from struggling writers -- what a
&%#*ing low-life! EVERYONE SHOULD BOYCOTT NEW LINE CINEMA!

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annd
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posted 12-22-2000 11:40 AM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My exp. with New Line was all positive.
LONNIE,
Is your script "the grind" ?
I read it and told a few people about it. Not that I know anybody, but there are a few actors that can attach for independant money.

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alhorton
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posted 12-22-2000 01:29 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What was your experience, do you work for them?

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annd
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posted 12-22-2000 03:45 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, but I do know and work for people who have done movies with them. They weren't big box office but they got produced. Lonnie's script is dark with humor and has an edge that a few people I know would like.

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12vob
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posted 12-22-2000 06:38 PM         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was a PA on Texas Chainsaw Massacre III. It was fun. I also worked in their office between semesters in school. They even taught me to be a reader which would explain why I'm always so harsh on people's scripts.

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