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ubio Member |
posted 10-07-2000 12:23 PM
At the risk of being flamed to death, I gotta say I HATED THE FREAKING BLAIR WITCH PROJECT!!!! That said, I'll give you the fact that the website tie-in was clever. But dammit, there was nothing going on in that film. Point 1: It looked cheap. I thought the point of a low budget movie or this contest for that matter, is to be cheap, but not LOOK cheap. Point 2: Plot? Hello...that film could have been 30 minutes it could have been 3 hours. Since it's just home movies it could have conceivably gone on forever. There is no clever dialogue, no character ark, and no plot. Point 3: Scary? HELL NO!!! If I was in a cabin alone at night with just this movie playing I wouldn't be scared. Who the hell thought this thing was real anyway? Did you know that some morons went out on a search party to look for the lost kids? Point 4: Could it have won Project Greenlight on screenplay alone? I think you know the answer to that one. The Blair Witch Project does give me hope though, if THAT can make money, we're all in good shape. PS: Did I mention the shaky camera? IP: Logged |
adam_einstein Member |
posted 10-07-2000 01:53 PM
BW was a good concept. Did you know there was no screenplay. It was all improv. The directors would give the actors suggestions, and they went from there. Pretty cool, I thought. IP: Logged |
dh Member |
posted 10-07-2000 02:09 PM
They had the absolute best promotion of any movie I've ever seen. IP: Logged |
lv2k Member |
posted 10-07-2000 08:42 PM
[quote]Scary? HELL NO!!! If I was in a cabin alone at night with just this movie playing I wouldn't be scared. Who the hell thought this thing was real anyway? Did you know that some morons went out on a search party to look for the lost kids?[quote] It's not about scary or not. It's about the style. A new camera style. Even Chris Carter(Director of X-Files) use BW camera style in X-Files. I think U doesn't know it, do U ubio? And I think BW is quite cool.... IP: Logged |
Okiechas Member |
posted 10-07-2000 08:56 PM
Actually, I enjoyed it. It was unique, kept my interest, and the acting was a lot better than I expected. The dialogue was believable. I gave it a thumbs up! I also agree that the Marketing effort is what made it all work. IP: Logged |
ElDuque59 Junior Member |
posted 10-07-2000 10:29 PM
Although it was not the best "movie" I've ever seen it does get an A for originality. It may seem wierd but I'm lookin forward to BW2. IP: Logged |
dn51 Member |
posted 10-08-2000 12:58 AM
A bunch of whiney sniveling yuppie spawn lost in the woods a pretty horrifying concept but not the least interesting or scary incredible promo campaign though IP: Logged |
falcon Member |
posted 10-08-2000 06:42 AM
Blair Witch... I think this one gives Plan 9 from Outer Space a run for the money when it comes to "worst movie, ever". Obviously, people held this to a lower standard because they knew that it was done by a couple of guys who raised the money themselves. Sorta like Chris Rock said, "if you're playing one on one with a retarded guy, you can't call him for double dribble... sometimes you gotta let a few things slide." If people had seen this, thinking it was a major studio release, I doubt anybody, anywhere, would have found a positive thing to say about it. I thought it was just flat-out bad. It fell into the category of, "good for a movie made by kids with no money.. bad by any other standard." Which leads me to another topic: I really, really respect the guys who made the movie. Granted, I thought the movie was terrible, but these guys took the initiative, went out and did something, and in the end (I presume) made both money and a career for themselves. But should we laud people for taking the initiative to make trash? If you want to see a GOOD movie made by a couple of brothers who raised the money and shot a script they wrote, and starred themselves in it, see "Bottle Rocket". IP: Logged |
uncle toby Member |
posted 10-08-2000 11:02 AM
It seems there's only one thing that bothers the men who created this film: cinema. Take a motion picture and remove cinemotography, dialogue, plotting and direction and you have The Blair Witch Project. Essentially, a card trick. The dialogue and the horror had a lot in common. They were obvious and spontaneous. Reality is boring; that's why the stage has always been built a few feet above the audience. Listening to these acting hacks take a break from their 'Silk Stalkings' auditions to wax repetitive about their situation was about as interesting as a wiretap on a public phone. Listening to the thing felt at best like I was passing time. I guess the men who made this movie said they hated fake horror. Well, there's one thing worse, and that's a fake movie. IP: Logged |
johnriggs Junior Member |
posted 10-08-2000 01:23 PM
Yeah, Blair witch was good proof that the power of suggestion works. Everyone heard the hype about how scary it was ( plus the possibility that it was "real" didn't hurt) and spooked themselves, in my opinion. FREAKYLINKS (by the BW creators) really sucks too (once again, IMHO). On a similar note, did anyone catch that Cameron's DARK ANGLE jacked ideas from Heinlien (FRIDAY). Like terminator all over, except unlike Harlan Ellison, heinlein isn't alive to sue him for proper credit. My bitchy 2 cents. IP: Logged |
leroyfishead Junior Member |
posted 10-08-2000 03:43 PM
I read somewhere that Blair Witch was the victory of substance over hype. I think just the opposite- It was all hype and no substance. Just because the hype was on the internet and in the newspapers and wasn't paid for (in the beginning) doesn't mean it wasn't hype. You can't say a movie has substance when nothing, absolutely nothing, happens in the entire 90 minutes. I liked the fake "In Search of the Blair Witch" documentary on the Sci-Fi chanel a lot more. Hey, johnriggs- I didn't hear anything about Harlan Ellison suing over Terminator, maybe it's because I'm a latecomer to the game. I'd like to hear more. I read, "I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream" and decided that that was enough Ellison for one lifetime. IP: Logged |
leaf Member |
posted 10-08-2000 07:07 PM
Whadda ya mean, "No clever dialogue?" How about the line, "This is no redneck. No redneck is this creative." Come on! That's vintage stuff. [This message has been edited by leaf (edited 10-08-2000).] IP: Logged |
misstee Member |
posted 10-08-2000 07:28 PM
ubio... i am so with you!!! i just wanted to tell the blair witch where the three of them were so she could get to them faster and the movie would be over. i will say, the concept was good. the story was definitley scary. it would have made a much better book than a movie. but they're from wheaton, md., which is a suburb of dc, where i live, so i gotta give props to the hometown boys. especially since they are not a product of a smarmy film school and went to montgomery community college. that's all about dc's d.i.y. tradtion. IP: Logged |
kwhite6 Member |
posted 10-08-2000 08:42 PM
I think you guys are missing the point. Whether or not you thought the movie was terrifying...or if the dialogue was good and memorable... were tallking about someone actually realizing the great American Movie dream: they created something for almost no money...put imagination over cash...promoted it themselves with no help...and totally kicked the ever loving sh*t out of the major studios in the SUMMER!!! isn't this what we all want? a chance for our project to be made and kiss off all the nay sayers? Haxan films did just that. they were the true spirit of indy film. Having said that: have you ever seen the movie, The Last Broadcast? it was made to broadcast directly over the internet as a test for this technology and it follows a group of documentary film makers in the woods searching for the Jersey Devil. it was what inspired the Blair Witch Project. and it's a lot of fun to watch...and very creepy. IP: Logged |
ARTRA Member |
posted 10-08-2000 11:27 PM
Much Ado About Nothing... IP: Logged |
vrstar Member |
posted 10-09-2000 09:20 AM
Chris Rock said it best. "Blair Witch was produced for $35,000. What I want to know is, where did all the money go?"
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falcon Member |
posted 10-09-2000 09:28 AM
Actually, Chris Rock's comment was much funnier than that: "They said Blair Witch was made for $40,000... you know what that means... Somebody's walking around with $38,000 in their pocket." IP: Logged |
vrstar Member |
posted 10-09-2000 09:36 AM
Musta been another episode. BW's still great late night fodder... IP: Logged |
Co22 Junior Member |
posted 10-09-2000 11:49 AM
...it was uh, different. But the stir it caused with everyone actually believing that it was a true story, brilliant! IP: Logged |
2Questionable Member |
posted 10-09-2000 12:23 PM
quote: ______________________________________ I was physicaly ill attempting to watch The Blair Witch Project which had worse camera work than a drunken 4 year old would produce. I kept praying that it would turn into a typical slasher film and Heather would get her head separated from her "soul". After 50 plus minutes of her whining about being lost and some idiot confessing to throwing away the map, we're supposed to be afraid? I'd be more afraid of home videos made by the Scooby gang than that motley crew of three hopeless half-wits - and that's including the time they ran into the Adams' family... By the way, who thought this piece of rubbish deserves a sequel anyway? Don't we already know what the whole deal is by now and that there's no amount of internet hype that can salvage enough mystique for a sequel? Lightning can't strike twice (at least I'm praying it doesn't). Hang up the film camera next to the stick figures in the tree and call it a day... IP: Logged |
JimBobTU Member |
posted 10-09-2000 12:37 PM
I think I was the only person on earth who actually liked the movie after I saw it. I thought it lived up to the hype. I've seen a million scary movies. It's my favorite genre. Only a few movies have ever scared me and only one movie has ever given me nightmares "Event Horizon". But this movie scared the shit out of me! I just pictured myself and my friends being lost in the wodds and being in a tent hearing babies laughing outside, then hearing my friends scream in terror while I could do nothing to find them or help them. I can't imagine that. But it really scared me since I'm from MD and my friends and I recognized the house from the end sepuence. We'd actually been there before! All the hand prints and that creepy stuff was already there, they didn't add it for the movie. The only thing they added was the knuce(sp) in the front yard. And in reality it's not deep in the woods, it's right off the road. And it's not in Burkettsville! So we went there immediatley after we saw the movie. Pitch black dark in the woods, in the Blair Witch House, immediatley after seeing the movie. It was pretty creepy! SORRY, but I liked the Blair Witch Project. Very original. It just seemed so real to me(even though I know it wasn't) IP: Logged |
mets Member |
posted 10-09-2000 01:07 PM
Seems this movie inspired extremes in anyone who saw it. Loved it or hated it. Myself? It scared the crap outta me due to some nightmares I have. It evoked that terrified feeling you get when you wake in the middle of the night thinking you heard a noise... Maybe somebody is in the other room! Your eyes are bleary and it dark and you desparately need to SEE! Your breathing is shallow and you try to hear over the blood rushing in your ears... Don't have to be in the woods to get THAT feeling! On the technical side, the jarring camera motions were a bit much and they coulda cut down the length in the middle by not having quite so many "nights in the woods" segments. Other than that I thought it was a good telling of a good ol' fashioned campfire ghost story! Mets IP: Logged |
ARTRA Member |
posted 10-09-2000 01:31 PM
You know what's really scary? Forget BW. What scares the crap outta me is George W. getting elected. And the ignorant shall...rule the earth? That said: I think the intent behind the really poor camera work and dialogue in BW was to make us realize that it was supposed to be being shot by amateurs...but you don't have to get your point across by beating the audience over the head with the messege. AND...NOTICE THE CAPS TO STRESS THE POINT... This phony POV can't work under these circumstances. What would have been believable would be for someone to have found amateur cam tapes left by some city tourists or some inexperienced hikers with a cam. This I could have accepted as an excuse for the poor film making...but not serious film IP: Logged |
CDNFilm Member |
posted 10-09-2000 02:35 PM
BW...I thought it was good, not wonderful, but good. The concept was excellent, and yes, I even liked the camera work (if you can call it that). Maybe it reminded me of old home movies and comforted me significantly, but I liked it. The only thing that ruined the movie for me was the HYPE before hand. I went in thinking I was going to see one of the best movies ever made. Not so, but it certainly wasn't the worst. I also have to give respect to the marketing and promotion for the film. They knew exactly how to suck in the audience that they were targeting. Very smart... Despite the first one's mixed reviews, I can honestly say I will see the next one. It may be out of curiousity, it may be out of temporary insanity, but come it's opening day, my ass will be in one of the theatre seats. e. IP: Logged |
JMan Member |
posted 10-09-2000 03:00 PM
About the Blair Witch, the previews made it look like it was supposed to be something really scary and that was what I expected out of it. Instead, the whole time I watched it I felt like something big was going to happen, but it never did. I went back a second time for some reason and this time I just watched it for what it was and was really good. Goes to show you how too much hype can really ruin a film. IP: Logged |
falcon Member |
posted 10-09-2000 03:05 PM
What do you mean, the last scene showed a guy who had to stand in the corner! That's about the scariest thing that could possibly happen... if you're 4 years old. I think Blair Witch 2 should have a climactic scene where somebody's crayons are taken from them. IP: Logged |
Marco_Roth Member |
posted 10-09-2000 03:07 PM
Love it, hate it, the fact is I wish I had made it! Those guys could have went right into BW2, but went ahead with a romcom instead. It's not my favorite movie, but I respect the filmmakers. IP: Logged |
ubio Member |
posted 10-09-2000 03:21 PM
Having read all your responses to the topic, I feel the need to make a few ammendments. First of all, I'm happy for anyone who breaks into the business. I'm very happy for these guys, and hope they do well in the future. That said however, I can't help feel that the makers of Blair Witch made it into the majors, by conning their way in. Sure, the internet site was clever as was the marketing, and the Sci-Fi Channel special was fine...but what about the movie itself? Does it stand out soley on its own? I don't think so. If I were lucky enough to win this contest, I'd hope people would like my movie. Everything involved with the Blair Witch seems to be "yeah the film sucked, but..." There should be not buts. PI, was cheap, and El Mariachi, and Clerks. I'm not picking on Blair Witch because it was the most successful, I'm picking on it because it was the least professional. When all is said and done, even the very worst movie should be competent. Hell, even Porky's was in focus. IP: Logged |
falcon Member |
posted 10-09-2000 03:31 PM
My cousin has already written a screenplay for Blair Witch 2, where kids are stalked in the woods and if they're caught, they have to watch the Blair Witch movie. IP: Logged |
Lackadaize Junior Member |
posted 10-09-2000 04:54 PM
You have to respect the different perspective that this film gave on horror. It broke from the formula.....some people pointed out that it had no character ark and whatnot......but that's what was great....it broke from the rules(given....maybe a little bit to much...but it was valiant). It's not something I watch more than once....but it was different and kept my interest in that fact. I dig somewhat obscure movies that way. IP: Logged |
CDNFilm Member |
posted 10-09-2000 08:42 PM
I may be the only one, but it scared the bloody piss out of me. The noises in the dark, the strategically placed "threatening stones". There were no boogie men or things with fangs and claws, only your mind playing tricks on you. It probably doesn't help that I live in a wooded area, but... I'll say it again (I've had many arguments about this topic), the only thing that killed this movie was the HYPE. e. IP: Logged |
Tyson Zoltan Heder Member |
posted 10-09-2000 08:59 PM
One word. SHIT. IP: Logged |
aaron_willis Member |
posted 10-10-2000 04:43 AM
i liked the film, but i hated the concept. horror is about what you don't see and they pulled that off with amazing accuracy. however, that the audience is supposed to think it's a real event steers the film's genre at exploitation. it didn't take too much brain power to just ad lib and make with the spooky. there's a difference between horror and exploitation. frankenstein, the shining, the thing, these are horror. friday the 13th, nightmare on elm st, ANY film with an armed maniac chopping up teens like asparagus is exploitation. violence for violence's sake. just like sex for sex's sake is exploitation. so my problem with "the blair witch" is that it skirts the edge, not really being either. but the more troubling aspect is that it was supposed to be taken as legitimate, and that's full-on exploitation. yes, we all know it was fake, but didn't it elicit the same thrills as "faces of death" or "cops"? we wanted to see the car crash. we wanted to see the fight break out. and for the blair witch, we savored the last remaining footage of three people who we were certain are dead, especially the very last part of the film. so, in closing, did i like "the blair witch project"? yes. its philosophy? no. IP: Logged |
kirstt Junior Member |
posted 10-10-2000 07:30 PM
Ghaa! enough of Blair Witch already! This whole Documentary/Mocumentary movement has just gone to far. IP: Logged |
johnriggs Junior Member |
posted 10-10-2000 08:58 PM
Ah. Terminator had ideas from Ellison's I HAVE NO MOUTH AND I MUST SCREAM. Ellison sued for credit, which is why at the beginning of Terminator it gives a nod to ideas by Ellison, etc. IP: Logged |
behemuthm Member |
posted 10-11-2000 01:10 AM
I am in a slightly different position when it comes to this movie. The circumstances under which I saw it and the events leading up to my viewing it caused me to have much different opinions than had I seen it in the theater. I was working at a video game company at the time when a coworker got hold of a tape from his friend at a post-efx house. It was a bootleg of Blair Witch, but this was a good FOUR MONTHS before the theatrical release. We were all curious and my coworker said he didn't know anything about it, other than it was some footage that was spliced together into a story. We watched it after work on a small tinny television, and it scared the living hell out of us. The reason being, we thought the damn thing was real, like a snuff film or whatnot. Remember, this was several months before the theatrical release...there were no teasers or any publicity about it yet. Only after I made a few copies and showed 'em to friends did I find out. Because this tape had no title, no credits...it just started with footage and that was it. Also, being on a small television originated from a VHS tape added credibility. I almost think that this would have done better as a direct-to-video. I never did see it in the theater, largely due to the fact that I'd probably seen it 10 times by then. Anyways, I loved it for what it was, and it worked for me. "And that's just a damned opinion!" IP: Logged |
2Questionable Member |
posted 10-16-2000 03:11 PM
quote: _________ Okay, now I am frightened... What if they just combine the Blair Witch Project with the Wizard Of Oz - wait, they already did that, didn't they? Minus Dorothy - all they had was the coward, the one without a heart, and the brainless twit... IP: Logged |
nevets Member |
posted 10-17-2000 03:02 PM
BW is one of the worst films every made. Right up there with ID-4, Speed and any Michael Bay film...But I drift... Just the notion that BW was released does not give me hope it scares the hell out me, beacsue if the people making the desions can't see crap when it's dumped on their desk then the real filmmakers like me are deep shit. BW only made money because everyone including myself were fooled into thinking it was something different when it was only a master minded marketing campain. PS: Anybody who thinks that BW is a good film has no business making them and should stay the hell out of my world. IP: Logged |
nevets Member |
posted 10-17-2000 03:03 PM
BW is one of the worst films every made. Right up there with ID-4, Speed and any Michael Bay film...But I drift... Just the notion that BW was released does not give me hope it scares the hell out me, beacsue if the people making the desions can't see crap when it's dumped on their desk then the real filmmakers like me are in deep shit. BW only made money because everyone including myself were fooled into thinking it was something different when it was only a master minded marketing campain. PS: Anybody who thinks that BW is a good film has no business making them and should stay the hell out of my world. IP: Logged |
Marco_Roth Member |
posted 10-17-2000 03:05 PM
Who said it was YOUR world? IP: Logged |
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