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Forum:Contest Philosophy
Topic:Open letter to Chris Moore
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ericshawnDear Chris:

This is in reply to your recent broadcast e-mail.

Your system and your basic contest rules are corrupt and I don't see how ANYONE is able to participate at all. Worse than the technical issues, your rules abandon any notion of fairness once the 250 video bios begin to be reviewed because it no longer takes the writers' screenplays into consideration. At that point candidates are chosen not by screenwriting merit, but by whether you think they'll present an acceptable appearance on camera in order to bring in ratings.

Technically, the site is filled with flaws that make it impossible to upload or retrieve scripts, and your server is so slow it is like being on a 28k modem dipped in molasses.

The project, in my opinion, is hopelessly flawed and should be shut down, and certainly never repeated.

I've asked to be removed from your membership roster. Any of your best and most serious writers should do the same. It is truly a complete waste of time.

middieI guess that's not milk in your Cheerios.
Irwin A. BerkowitzDear Eric,

I asked to be removed also.

The contract of official rules and additional agreements are so one sided its impossible to believe that there is any other motive except to cheat the writer.

I don't mind getting screwed, as much as I mind screwing myself.

quote:
Originally posted by ericshawn:
Dear Chris:

This is in reply to your recent broadcast e-mail.

Your system and your basic contest rules are corrupt and I don't see how ANYONE is able to participate at all. Worse than the technical issues, your rules abandon any notion of fairness once the 250 video bios begin to be reviewed because it no longer takes the writers' screenplays into consideration. At that point candidates are chosen not by screenwriting merit, but by whether you think they'll present an acceptable appearance on camera in order to bring in ratings.

Technically, the site is filled with flaws that make it impossible to upload or retrieve scripts, and your server is so slow it is like being on a 28k modem dipped in molasses.

The project, in my opinion, is hopelessly flawed and should be shut down, and certainly never repeated.

I've asked to be removed from your membership roster. Any of your best and most serious writers should do the same. It is truly a complete waste of time.


kg22384Well well well. Can we say, "Angry White Male". I know, that wasn't PC, but who gives a fuck.

I think someone has extremely low self esteem and thinks they're too ugly to participate in this contest. Unfortunately, I think you misunderstood the aim of this project. It's three fold. To find a good writer, to find a good director, and to find a charismatic person. Obviously, I think the first two are more important. I think if it's narrowed down to two people, one extremely talented, but slightly less charismatic than the other, who is slightly less talented, they will choose the one with talent.

And who's to say what exactly they're looking for as far as charisma, ericshawn. I mean think about it, a fat gay guy won survivor. A fat, hairy, abrasive gay guy. Do you think when he first sent in his application to be considered for the show, he was thinking, oh yeah, they're gonna choose old fat gay guys to do the show. no, he was probably thinking, oh, they're gonna choose a bunch of twenty year olds with washboard abs, blonde hair, and tan hairless bodies. Did they? Nope. I think your esteem problems, Eric, are what's limiting you, not the contest.

Grow up and take a chance.

Justinawoah dude. well, okay. more for me...
capnBummer dude. I know I've been frustrated by some of the technical snaffu's, too. However, since I am one in my group of friends who always says [when invited to see a movie], "Nah. Nothing worth spending $8 on", I figured I'd try and change the weather instead instead of standing around in the rain griping about how wet it is outside... I think the contest is well concieved and [for a first try] well executed. I hope the constructive critisisms put on this board will encourage Mr. Afleck and Mr. Damon to try again! Next time I might submit a screenplay! Best of luck to all the authors and groups. Hope to see you on the Oscar's!!!

quote:
Originally posted by ericshawn:
Dear Chris:

This is in reply to your recent broadcast e-mail.

Your system and your basic contest rules are corrupt and I don't see how ANYONE is able to participate at all. Worse than the technical issues, your rules abandon any notion of fairness once the 250 video bios begin to be reviewed because it no longer takes the writers' screenplays into consideration. At that point candidates are chosen not by screenwriting merit, but by whether you think they'll present an acceptable appearance on camera in order to bring in ratings.

Technically, the site is filled with flaws that make it impossible to upload or retrieve scripts, and your server is so slow it is like being on a 28k modem dipped in molasses.

The project, in my opinion, is hopelessly flawed and should be shut down, and certainly never repeated.

I've asked to be removed from your membership roster. Any of your best and most serious writers should do the same. It is truly a complete waste of time.


behemuthmI understand the fine print, how if you get into the top 250, Miramax retains all rights to those scripts. And you know what? That's fine with me. How cool would that be to see a studio make your story (which might not even make it past the semi-finals) into a feature film! Even if I don't get paid for it, it'd be cool to know that it was good enough for a studio to make it. Besides, that script had to come from somewhere, right? My damn name is on it, and it's both registered with the WGAw and copyrighted. If anyone else takes credit for the script, I can show my 30+ revisions from earlier versions. *shrug* I just wanna see how good of a writer I am.
AthanorDear ericshawn

Now you are a funny guy. It is obvious that such a big contest will gather both happy and unhappy people. It's within the laws of probabilities.

But I don't think that Chris, here, should and would be hurt by your insulting opinion -> Quote" The project, in my opinion, is hopelessly flawed and should be shut down, and certainly never repeated."

In my opinion, this project is a good idea. Like any good project, it had its fair amount of flaws and values. I do hope (since you are the customer here and deserve total satisfaction) that you'll get your refund from greenlight (they owe you a free membership) and be free to shop anywhere else.

Heck, why don't you open your own contest and try to do better? If I was a fat philanthropist, I would give you the same budget they had and see how good you'd be.

I'm glad to see that only a small amount of spoiled writers share your anger.

One word of wisdom: To truely work as a writer you'll need a tiny drop of talent and creativity for an ocean of patience and tenacity. Looking at your offending attitude, and replying to you with the same attitude, please let me say: Go work at McDonalds or something!

equalaris Open letter to Eric Shaw! Grow the fuck up! You will never make it in HOLLYWOOD or any place else in this world with your incessant whining and belly aching! You more than likely took yourself out of the competition because you are afraid of REAL competition and your script probably SUCKS! This Project Green Light site is free and you have the audacity to bitch about? If you don't like it, don't upload your script! Hey I think you should forget about being a writer because you don't have any balls and when it comes down to dealing with Studios and Producer you will probably kill yourself! Stay in Iowa or where ever you come from and keep your candy ass otta LA cause there are realities here that you will not be able to deal with! Good luck in life you LOSER!
AthanorNow, now, let's not be angry about nothing, shall we?

Isn't diplomacy the best key to the main door?

MuttlyHmm... Interesting topic and replies... Wondering if the "angry and frustrated" have considered what can and does "go wrong" when selling a script or making a movie...? Also wondering if they recall that it took Matt and Ben something like five years to even get Good Will Hunting made. And if I remember right, their "time" was running out and almost to the deadline when Kevin Smith showed it to Mr. W. at Miramax. FIVE YEARS! IMAGINE FIVE YEARS! Imagine what must have been going through the heads of those two... What if they would have given up...? That makes me sad just thinking about it and I am NOT kissing ass...! At the least, one of us is only going to have to wait a few months...

[This message has been edited by Muttly (edited 10-14-2000).]

mmdeanHere's the first 3.5 pages of my script, VIRTUALLY PRESIDENT. If you'd like to read the rest, type in "anonymous". Thank you.
==========================================

FADE IN:
EXT. SUBURBAN PHILADELPHIA, PA STREET - DAY

Two photos are on the side of a delivery truck.One is of the Liberty Bell and its famous foreboding crack. The other is of a person's big butt, parked on a soda fountain stool. The pants are pulled down part way; the butt crack shows more than a peep.

Above the ad it reads. "WHICH CRACK WAS MADE BIGGER BY PHILLY'S BEST ICE CREAM?" Below the ad reads, "LIBERTY BELL ICE CREAM. PHILADELPHIA'S BEST".

The truck pulls away revealing the front of Thomas Jefferson Senior High School.

EXT. THOMAS JEFFERSON H.S. - PHILADELPHIA, PA - DAY

Lunch time. Student body election season. Campaign banners cover the exterior walls of the school.

Two boys, one white, one black, JACK HALVERSON and RALPH WASHINGTON are waylaid by two TECHNO-CHAPS, arguing over a calculator. Jack and Ralph win the debate. They move on.

JACK
You think they'd be
good at math.

RALPH
They are.

JACK
Don't look at me. I
failed trig. Remember?

RALPH
You tanked trig. Remember?

JACK
Bad year. Who needs that
crap anyway?

INSERT - BANNERS
Professional quality "LOOK GOOD. VOTE FOR CARSON". Homemade variety "I WILL TRY VERY HARD. MARIBEL FOR PREZ"

BACK TO SCENE

RALPH
Poor girl getting her
butt kicked.

JACK
She didn't have to run.

Something big is bothering Jack, but he keeps it to himself.

GOTHIC KIDS offer the boys earphones. They rock together for a moment as a joint is passed. Jack, inexperienced, can't make the pass. Ralph pulls him away as the bell RINGS.

INT. KINDRED'S CLASS - DAY
The bell finishes RINGING. MR. DRUCKER, a large math teacher in sweats, inhales a baggy full of Cheerios. English teacher, MR. CHERRY, drags on a cigarette, exhaling out a window.

JAMES KINDRED, government teacher, fitter, more handsome and better dressed than his colleagues, leans against the teacher's desk, finishing an apple.

DRUCKER
Mutually assured destruction, Jim.

KINDRED
More like mutually agreed
upon stupidity. Don't trust
ourselves anymore.

DRUCKER
Did you apply?

KINDRED
For president? C'mon.

DRUCKER
Best candidate I know.

CHERRY
(desperate bell ringing drags)
Here, here. I'm with Drucker.

KINDRED
Thanks. Hard enough trying to make
sense of this for the kids.

DRUCKER
I'm glad I teach math.

Messrs. Drucker and Cherry are out the door, letting in the early arrivals. CHEERLEADER is the first through the door.

CHEERLEADER
(sniffing)
Mr. Kindred, you're not
supposed to smoke in school.

Kindred gives her a "what me?" look.

EXT. WHITE HOUSE PORTICO - DAY
A presidential limo pulls up under the overhang. The CHAUFFEUR exits and hurries inside past a marine guard.

INT. WHITE HOUSE HALLWAY - DAY
A WHITE HOUSE AIDE opens a closet. A red carpet is rolled up inside. It is kicked down the hallway towards the chauffeur, who hurdles it nonchalantly.

WHITE HOUSE AIDE
(hand up, defensively)
Cars are going to Congress.
You too.

CHAUFFEUR
I'm the presidents' driver.
Ol' train 'em and restrain 'em.
You know that.

WHITE HOUSE AIDE
No more to train, restrain.
Or drive. Get over it.

INT. WHITE HOUSE LIVING QUARTERS - BEDROOM - DAY

A NAVY VALET removes sweaters from a dresser drawer. Other drawers hold golf shirts, T-shirts, briefs and socks, all meticulously folded and labeled with the presidential seal.

Everything goes into luggage. A HOUSEKEEPER strips the bed.

HOUSEKEEPER
Resheet?

NAVY VALET
(going into the bathroom)
No soap, no shampoo, ornamental
towels only. Said nothing about
sheets.

The door opens and a man in uniform enters, side arm drawn. It's a WHITE HOUSE HANDYMAN with an electric drill.

INT. PRESIDENTIAL BATHROOM - DAY
The valet empties the medicine cabinet of toiletries. The handyman goes to the toilet and screws down the seat and lid, tightly and precisely.

WHITE HOUSE HANDYMAN
Discourage those who would
ascend the throne
illegitimately.

NAVY VALET
(watching him leave)
Don't resheet.

The housekeeper and valet are fixated on the secured toilet.

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